Background
info: After telling a newsgroup of hundreds of visitors that he was leaving
the actual group and hip-hop all together, Mike Burke returns to say that everything
he said was a hoax. He also explains his reasoning behind his "experiment" and addresses a few people's comments.
>Assuming
the original post was a hoax, ya'll got to keep in mind that it spawned more
thought and dicussion about hip hop's place in our lives and in american/world
culture (on a real down to earth level that even the most simple and youngest
minds could follow) than ANY other post in years on this NG. If it was a hoax,
it was one of the most intriguing internet experiments I've seen to date.
Thank
you, quiz. Yes, I did fake my leaving hip-hop, but *this* was my intent. It
wasn't done as a joke or anything, it was done in a sincere attempt to spark
debate, learn something, and have everyone else learn something, too. These
last two weeks have been the most interesting timeI've ever spent on RMHH. The
debates in here have been incredible, especially Kari vs DLS and Akiem vs Flash.
If you've been following the the thread I started and/or "Catalyst - M.
Burke Response," you can't even front like you didn't learn anything. Now
I've had my little plan revealed before I could complete it, and now everyone
thinks I did this as some big joke just to fuck with people, thanks to a couple
of people who didn't even hear it from me. I put myself on the line, wrote that
long-ass post (y'all *know* how I hate to do that), got called "coward,"
had a bunch of people on the, "Fuck Mike Burke, I'm down, he's just a wack-ass
mark" tip, had to write several more long-ass messages via e-mail, not
only to back up my story but to provoke more thought on anindividual basis,
couldn't even participate even though I had loads to say, but I still think
it was worth it. Now I'm going to have people who feel decieved and are going
to hate me, and even if my "net rep" is completely sullied, I'll still
be glad I did it. I've come away with a *much* better understanding of hip-hop,
and I'm sure a lot of you did, too. I've heard from several people in e-mail
who have told me how they've been doing a lot of thinking about their place
in hip-hop, and to have provoked people to do that is just as valuable to me
as what I learned personally, so even if all of RMHH wants to become my enemy,
at least they'll be an enemy with a more in-depth understanding of hip-hop.
>Yeah,
I just found out myself, and I'm fucking pissed. I, as well as many of you,
both posted and emailed very thoughtful, emotion-filled letters as to why Mike
Burke shouldnt leave hiphop. I feel like such a dick, because I really felt
bad that someone 3000 miles away felt they no longer belonged. I feel so fucking
deceived!! All that shit for nothing. Think about it. That fucking"Goodbye
RMHH" post is STILL running in here, and the whole thing was a hoax to
begin with.
You
see, this why I had to fake my leaving. If I had just posted a hypothetical
question, such as, "Say a white kid who really loves hip-hop comes to the
conclusion that he really isn't hip-hop and decides to leave it, what do you
guys think of that?", do you really think it would have gotten *nearly*
the repsonse, both in number of responses and intensity? The way I did it, people
actually felt emotion, it brought out their strongest convictions, and they
argued passionately. By doing it like this I was able to attack the whites (and
other "non-traditional heads") in hip-hop debate from a whole new
angle, and at a much more intense level. I have a pretty unique position here
in arguably the best place in the world to debate hip-hop issues in that I've
been here so long, contributed so much, and had a gimmick (my sense of humor)
that would be missed, so some people would try and get me to stay. If I wasn't
funny, most people probably wouldn't care, but I'm taking a few of their laughs
with me if I leave, and like Michael Jordan retiring, even if they don't give
a shit about the person, they'll miss the entertainment he gave them. So that
aspect got more people to respond. If a first-time poster wrote that he was
going to give up hip-hop, the debates would have been miniscule, maybe one or
two responses. But I have name-recognition and people know me and know what
I'm about, so it was able to bring out more effort and thought from people.
Once I had the idea, I *had* to do it, because no one else really could, and
if they could, they probably wouldn't have the idea. I couldn't let this go
to waste.
>
You know, the other day, when I was standing in the Park watching everyone perform
at the rocksteady crew anniversary thing, I thought of Mike Burke. All that
harmony between black, white, hispanic, asian, etc.... Made me think of how
wrong Mike Burke was, and what a HUGE mistake we made. When I was walking out
of the park, I saw necro giving a kid an interview. I actually walked over to
Necro just to ask him what his opinion was on the whole situation. I was going
to ask him what he thought of whites in hiphop, and where they stand. Not only
Necro, but I was seriously thinking of getting in touch with RA theRugged Man,
and asking him what he thought the proper role was for white people in hiphop,
and whether they belonged or not. BOY am I glad I didnt do that.
Don't
you see? This is exactly the type of thing I was hoping for. It wasn't meant
to be a prank on you, Maseo, it was supposed to be a learning experience for
everybody. You *should* have asked them, I would be fascinated to hear what
they have to say. Hip-hop is so damnably impossible to define, the more different
view points, the better, in order to find the truths from each argument and
combine them to find the real truth of what hip-hop *really* is. Getting the
opinions of those two would have been extremely valuable.
>Sure,
its still a relevant question, but the fact that I was played for a fool, and
poured out so much emotion into those writings for this guy, combined with the
fact that he KNEW he was bullshitting all the time, really Fucks me up! I'm
pissed, and I'm gonna stay pissed. This NG has gone way off the deep end. When
emotions can be conveyed and people can be made fools of by others in a NG,
there is Seriously something wrong. Deception???? Is that what this is all about??
In the past year that I've been posting, I've stayed NOTHING BUT real with you
people. Everything I have ever said has been nothing but the gods honest truth.
Its a shame others cant be the same way. They build our trust, knowing they
will utilize that trust to perform an *experiment* on all of us guinea pigs.
Fuck that. Fuck them. I got other plans. Fuck You.
I'm
so sorry you feel that way, Maseo, and if your feelings don't change after you
hear it from me, I at least hope other people don't see it this way. It's not
like I knew I was going to do this all the time I've been here and this was
my plan from the start, the thought only occured to melike a month ago, and
I procastinated doing it until two and a half weeks ago. Yes, it was an experiment
on everybody, but the results were all laid out right in front of everybody,
so it's not like I was hoarding all of this to myself. It was to everyone's
benefit.
Via
e-mail I had to keep the secret, and even back it up, which was very difficult,
especially to make it convincing, and it didn't help that people were probing
me to see if I was really telling the truth. So many times I was tempted to
"just let this one person in on it," but I knew I couldn't, because
then I would lose the realness. So instead, I challenged people,especially the
whites who e-mailed me. I took the Kari/Akiem standpoint (although they aren't
totally similar, they are still the opposite of the accepted belief system around
here) in my e-mail arguments, and not only was I able to make the recipient
think (if he/she chose to truly think about what I said and was willing to honestly
evaluate his/her place in hip-hop), but by putting the the other perspectives
arguments in my own words and making my own arguments from their stand point,
I was able to put myself in their shoes and at least partially see from their
perspective. I learned a lot from it. That was one thing I got out of this that
the ng as a wholedidn't, but there's nothing I could do about that.
It
was interesting watching most of the whites in here speedily distancing themselves
from me to show how "down" they were, and how they weren't like that
"Mike Burke punk." But there were a few who took what I said to heart,
and really thought about it. Mike Dodd and WUZ! in particular had a lot of interesting
things to say, which I would have liked to comment on in here, but my computer
TOTALLY crashed Sunday, and I lost every single file I had. NyceStylez also
put in a LOT of thought, which was very encouraging to me. Hopefully many of
the lurkers did, too, because even if they didn't say anything about it here,
if they thought deeply about it, it was just as worthwhile. I had a lot more
stuff I wanted to say in this post, but since my computer crashed, I lost all
of my back e-mail and all of the posts I had saved to comment on. I just want
to take the time to thank everybody who responded, everyone who put themselves
through the rigors of honestself-introspection, and especially those who took
the time to be the main participants in the debates. Special thanks to Kari
for starting the"Catalyst - M. Burke Response" thread. And to rch33@janto.com
and the other person who impersonated me, get the bozack.
I hope
I've explained myself well enough, but if not, there's nothing I can do. I leave
it to y'all.
Peace?
"As
hard as it is to be perfect, I try" T-Mo
Mike
Burke.